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Question to David Talbot from Neil McCauley,
Exeter KPA:
David's talk was entitled 'Non heart beating donors, an untapped
resource'; well there is another untapped resource, which at one
time was providing a lot of extra kidneys in the area for where
I come from. That was known as elective ventilation. Now this
has
been sidelined for some spurious ethical reasons, but I wonder
if pressure could be brought perhaps as part of the kidney structure
plan that has been brought out to re-introduce elective ventilation,
which is a very good way, as you will know yourself, for providing
additional donor kidneys. Perhaps you would like to comment on
that?
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David Talbot's reply: I think
UKTSA were actually looking at this again, to actually to see the
extent of potential donors that they could actually utilise in patients
that have had strokes. One of the big problems that arise from the
Exeter approach is that you could actually change the course of somebody's
illness by ventilating them. So if you had somebody with a stroke
who was likely to die, to actually admit them onto an intensive care
unit with the view of actually using them as a donor, may actually
mean that you prolong that persons life, and make them not suitable
for a donor, and you end up with a patient who is quite severely brain
damaged. So it does open a lot of ethical areas, and that was one
of the reasons why the whole programme was stopped. I am not sure
if the UKT are looking at it? Probably not, I think their views would
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Question: Ken Tupling, NKF executive, and
representative to the BTS Ethics Committee
I did raise this particular point at our meeting two months ago
and the BTS Committee agreed to look at it.
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Question: John Sager, Lancashire
& South KPA.
I would just like to ask Dr Richards about the satellite units.
When you first started having them you put them all on business
parks and the later ones you said you would put into hospitals.
Was there a reason for that, and do you think there is any benefit
from it?
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Dr Richards Reply: The reason
the last two have gone on to hospital sites is just because of
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availability of the site more than anything else. So I do not think
there is any advantage in having dialysis units in hospitals at
all. If we can dialyse people at home without being in hospital,
there is no reason you can't dialysise them in a business park,
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Question: David Benoliel, Oxford KPA.
Question to Dr Richards about the quality systems. You mentioned
that quality assurance systems have been introduced into the satellite
units. Have you extended that same system into your own base unit
in the hospital?
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Reply Dr Richards: Yes we have.
We suddenly realised that was something we were not doing in the hospital,
and so we introduced that back into the hospital, having seen the
benefits within satellite units. |
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Question: Gemma Benoliel, Oxford KPA.
To Jackie Campbell
You suggested I think in your talk that APD is superior to CAPD.
If that is so, why isn't everyone on APD?
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Reply Jackie Campbell: I'm sorry,
I did not mean to give the impression that APD was superior to CAPD.
APD is more flexible, and gives better treatment to some patients.
CAPD is still more suitable to the low transporters group patients. |
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Question: Chris Roberts, Lister Kidney
Foundation.
My partner and I are of the opinion that this is quite a valid
question; I am not quite sure who to address this to though. How
much work is going on into prevention and education into keeping
healthy kidneys, bearing in mind that statistically it was mentioned
earlier that there are more and more patients needing dialysis?
I do feel that maybe that perhaps a survey. I know there a number
of reasons, diet being one of them, increase in population being
another, but maybe it may be useful to do a survey at some stage?
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Reply: Just to say there is
quite a lot of work beginning. |
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